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Friday, July 22, 2011

Our Hypothetical Thinking Methods__Abduction_Our 1st Reality Processor...

Hi Tim, your post has much of what is intended by way of my investigation and links I mean/t to bring forward. The main point is the boundary or inter-boundary inter-actions of mental self to physical world realities. What I found was that Konrad Zuse actually best developed this language needed to address the hypothetical, or as we've named it__the absolute virtual observer position__by way of his use of automatons__same difference... The trick is always to have the ability to speak from outside the system_virtually_while still addressing all the facts as though inside the system...

Here's a few of Zuse's ideas, I most picked up on, though there are many more in the full article:

Calculating Space…(Excellent explication of real intuition mechanics...)
Conservation of information and conservation of configuration are therefore contradictory to a certain extent… Zuse(One explication of thought's central problem...)
State Changes__Shape-Shifting of Particle-Waves…(Simple explication of supervenience, or super-positionings__A solution to the central explication problem of complex thought__where thought divides into more than one direction, at once, as you've also mentioned__Shape-Shifting Thoughts...)
The Principle of Conservation of Energy Can Be Interpreted As The Conservation of Events…(Very Important...)
The Shape-Shifter Mechanics of Events…(A Best-Fit Explication...)
If the effective quantum is assigned the dimension ‘shifting process’, we obtain the dimension ‘shifting process per unit of time’ for energy…(First excellent definition of energy, I've ever seen...)
The Hydrodynamic Atomic Clock…(Actual explication of physical time mechanics of such motions...)


Until we correctly structure the system as 'an entire paradigm', its hard to identify where the many aspects of our world lie such as the geo aspects of structured and unstructured states of substance and all of the mechanics involved along with the bio aspects of emergence, evolution, thought, logic, etc.

Oh, fully agreed here Tim. This is one of the points I tried to get through to David, back in `06 and `07__but, he thought it could best be explained with simple wave mechanics. He wasn't willing to address the greater physical-mental divide of the larger global community of human processors of these ideas__yet my position was always about the need of a new language to address such interface problems of science and normative ideas__because, I'd already run into these same great roadblocks in my economics' ideas, conversations, web inter-actions and writings. This is further why I've always stated it must be an 'Eclectic Model' or paradigm explanation idea we create, to address fluently all those who do not easily grasp these many complexities, with enough generalities, to make them easily understandable to a general audience. Like you imply, we haven't even invented the name of such a model__yet__except to call it a ToE or some other sort of Unification Model. But__Are we trying to unify physics or thought__And, is there truly, any difference...? Just for a moment, think how eclectic 'Methodology' is, and how 'A Methodology Model of Eclectic Thought' may be to explaining, simply, how we actually do think about the world, when we daily have to address these many varying personalities... Just maybe, if we all realized, our 'pre-suppositional methodologies of thought'__almost fully formed/informed by our stations in life__from 'the have-nots', to 'the haves' actually create most of our basic ideas of the world__then maybe we'd have a foundation to start from, i.e., people are fundamentally different, as to thoughts and life-view choices, and what positions they will defend from, thus creating all the eclectic positions any new ToE or Unification Model must address...

What paradigm must we use to integrate so many seemingly unrelated concepts into one network of understanding whereby we might see the various processes and functions of so many aspects of our universe as intrinsic consequences of a unified natural process?

Well, I know it must be eclectic and general, Tim__as that's not only what Peirce recommended, but also all the great eclectic philosophers of history, especially the more modern eclectics like Bolzano and Cousins__And this would mean 'A General Model of Eclectic Methodology of Thinking' or as already mentioned__'Abduction' as the same, which is our general and natural hypothetical thinking processes, about all the world's eclectic collection of ideas...

As to logic itself, and just out of curiosity, which of the processes of inference is being used to establish such governing processes as the mechanics which oversee the acquisition of knowledge within the mind?

Hands down, no doubt about it__'Abduction' as it's our first 'private hypothetical thinking process' about all our fundamental ideas about self and the world. Just as Peirce stated 100 years ago__'Pragmatism is about Abduction', or 'Abduction is Pragmatism'__Our fundamental thinking about the real physical world, brain and how it actually produces bio-chemical-intelligence, and stores all the knowledge and facts in memory spaces, collected of this real world...

Is inference mechanics subject to the same aspects it attempts to define as it attempts to bridge a gap in our knowledge of reasoning the same as its concepts further attempt to explain how we bridge gaps in other various areas of nature in our process of reasoning and knowledge acquisition?

It absolutely is Tim, and this is why Peirce wrote this paragraph, to explicate this exact process:

“Two things here are all-important to assure oneself of and to remember. The first is that a person is not absolutely an individual. His thoughts are what he is "saying to himself," that is, is saying to that other self that is just coming into life in the flow of time. When one reasons, it is that critical self that one is trying to persuade; and all thought whatsoever is a sign, and is mostly of the nature of language. The second thing to remember is that the man's circle of society (however widely or narrowly this phrase may be understood), is a sort of loosely compacted person, in some respects of higher rank than the person of an individual organism." C.S. Peirce

To me, more is explained about QM right here, than all the books written, and Peirce is the first to suggest putting all our measurement standards on the speed of light, as expressed by the frequencies of a sodium atom long befor Stoney or Planck...

Would we consider the concept of inference mechanics as arising from induction, deduction or abduction within what we know about the process of thought and reasoning itself?

Inference mechanics imo Tim, arises from our biology, and is induction deduction and abduction__It's just the problem with history not realizing we've always used all three, as our natural thinking processes__mainly due to dummy Aristotle not realizing even natural logics require 1st, 2nd and 3rd order logics, or Modal's three first state orders__possibilities, impossibilities and necessities__Aristotles 3rd state deductive-inductive logics, and what Aristotle left out, our 2nd order logic of 'Abduction...' Or you can re-arrange these orders as you please, as 'Abduction' 'Modal' or 'Induction-Deduction' may just be the first logics we awake to each morning, according to how the night's dreams and thoughts went, if ya know what I mean... Anyway, imo, our hypothetical-theoretical abductive thinking is the most important, yet the least discussed and least understood aspect of our triadic thinking processes. I don't know about you, but I'd guess it to be true, that 'Thinking about Thinking' is very important to you also, as it is to me__and that's our 'Natural Hypothetical Abductive Thinking about Thought...' It's just our natural self-thinking, imo, Tim...

Is this even a legitimate question? Lmao…..the geo universe is easy to understand compared to the interface where it meets the bio interactions it spawns……lol. We ultimately become our own road block to absolute understanding and truth.

Yeah, self-processing inanity is one hell of a demon, to fight off... Lmfao...

This is all I attempt, Tim...

The teacher who is indeed wise does not bid you to enter the house of his wisdom but rather leads you to the threshold of your mind. - Kahlil Gibran


"Life's journey is simply learning to see ourselves__completely..."

A few other ideas I'm looking at, Tim:

The New Extended Computational Logic…
The Computational Logic of Proof Logic__A Combination Proof Method…
The Logical Computational Proof of All Factually Necessary Model & Category Systems…
Logical Computational Proofs of Truth Systems’ Facts…
Modal Logic, Abduction, Deduction & Induction Logics Are The Key Test Proofs Method/s… The First Order 1st, 2nd, & 3rd Logics, of The Second Order 1st, 2nd, & 3rd Logics, Plus The Third Order Logics of Identity, Non-Contradiction, Excluded Middle & Sufficient Ground…(Aristotle & Leibniz couldn’t even have discovered the 3rd order logics, without the other two orders’ uses, first…)
The Innate Possibilities, Impossibilities and Necessities = Intelligence…
The Hypothetical Necessities of Ground Thoughts…
The Innate Infinite Regress Impossibility…
The ‘Innateness Math’ Fallacy…
Innate Intelligence_Yes…! Innate Knowledge_No…!
Intelligence = Innate Potential Function…!!!
Those in denial of their own insanity…???
The Descriptive-Analytic Distinctions…
The Descriptive-Prescriptive Distinctions…
The Modal Computational Possibilities, Impossibilities & Necessities…
1st Modal Law__“The highest probability, of the highest possibility, is the only possibility, or the absolute necessity…”
Peirce’s Unification of The Three Logic Systems, 1st, 2nd, & 3rd…
Innateness Alone, Is Impossible, As A Knowledge System…
The Innateness Impossibility__The ‘Tabula Rasa’ Regress Necessity…
A New Universal Computational Logic…
Computational Decision Theory & Facts…
Computational Intelligence…
The Puzzle of Continuous Information Across Particle Space…???
Hydro-Mechanics…
The Conservation of Torque...(Angular momentum and the Universe's many toroids...)
The Conservation of Pulse…???(Wave-front charge...)
At The Core__State Change Is Dimensional Change of Physical Event Mechanics__Wave Amplitude, Length & Frequency Mechanics’ Change…


Triadic Imagination___"To process infinite sense to finite logic, isomorphically transduce to the universal law of pure liberty."

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