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Tuesday, August 9, 2011

Above and Below The Surface.....The Inner Relationship Of Temporal and Spatial Values

added p.s. and p.s.s. below after post.......

That's not a headache to me ole buddy. I think I follow you for the most part as with the old post you provided being one of the more clear moments I tried to express the asymmetry actually conserving a more fundamental symmetry. I can understand the representation and translate the symbols, but the main thing you'll have to help me with is understanding how to apply it and what type of information it will extract. For instance, does it have the ability to form quantitative calculations because the way I understand it so far is through the isomorphic relationships of the various systems it is intended to represent.

The universal center of mass is the barycenter product of the various galactic centers of mass, which are barycenters of their constituent black holes, solar systems etc. which further break down all the way to the atomic levels. The coupling forces of each of the constituent systems concentrate their mass values to form point center representations whereby their composite mass acts at the next larger scale to further concentrate it's mass value. If the universe was to cycle to a contraction aspect, the universal composite barycenter would be the dynamic point to which all systems condensed towards. This is part of some of the aspects that I interpret as having to be considered from your representation. Also needing to consider the actual transitional phases through time and space working from these center masses whereby all of the quantitative dimensions eg energy, momentum, velocity, frequency, wavelength, etc, of the various systems which establish the characteristics of such systems are conserved in an isomorphic manner whereby their very distribution determines the identification of the system being observed. The key to understanding such is by way of realizing that seemingly unrelated and non-interchangable properties are actually interchangeable when considering the transition through time and space, and not just space or just time as most dimensions of a system and the equations thereof attempt to define. For instance, Einstein established that energy and mass are interchangable at the constant value of cc, and Planck used his value to equate energy to frequency, yet such values as velocity are also interchangable with various other internal system values if one considers not just the ever present state of a system which most of science's focus is on, but also the ever present cost to remain in such a state. I would argue with Newton here, an object in motion might stay in motion, but such motion is far from free. Velocity is the quantitative value of a system maintaining a stable state for any duration. To relate to Pierce here, remaining in the present moment in any one state is a required value of the sum of all other system values. Rearrange or morph the values or Va of a system and a different system is formed with some of it's quantities surfacing in the everpresent realm whose values are readily available to measure, while other quantities are conserved to those temporally hidden values which only show up as an aspect of a rate of change or velocity contributor.

I guess what I'm getting at is that some values of a system can be considered as intrinsically linked to spatial aspects, while others can be considered as linked to temporal aspects. Thus being as the spatial dimensions are more available to us, those values upon it's surface are better understood, while those hidden by temporal aspects below the surface have allowed the relational aspect of all values to remain hidden from our perception until we consider that moving through time isn't any more free of effort than moving through space or distance. Yet, how we move through both simultaneously is resolved by how we distribute the internal motion or Va of a system. And as suggested before, some changes of a system are to the extent that the system perhaps hasn't enough time to morph itself to remain functioning as a group, thus not meeting a parameter whereby quantities of substance are moved as a result whereby balance is maintained by imbalanced phenomena. Which if veiwed from the reversible aspect, sheds light on not only decay, but also construction.

I see all this clearly. Even if I'm off a little on some aspects, I know the logic is sound, but considering what I'm saying here and if your representation is addressing all of this, then at it's current composition, is it only addressing the relationship of such things, or does it allow such a means of perhaps extracting quantitative values of those things being conserved? Does it allow further applications, or merely bring others to this level of understanding the relationship of such things? Or am I a little off the mark?

P.S. The best way I can make an analogy is to consider that we can imagine as some already do, the present as being refreshed at a constant interval. It doesn't matter if it's steady or exact, because there is no external reference, thus just as we can't tell how long we've been a sleep, if one interval is different than another, there's no way of knowing, but all points are refreshed simultaneously. Now if we have a photon, the distance it must be moved every time the system flashes/refreshes is much greater than that of a macro object. However, the time or bandwidth it takes to constantly reconstruct a massive system is much greater than the photon. Thus, the difference of the distance being moved every cycle of the photon is equal and innerchangeable to the greater complexity of the massive system, whereby unrelated values are found to conserve to each other by way of their relationship to space and time and the simple cost of being preserved in the everpresent present moment.

P.S.S. Once we zoom inside the massive objects, their subatomic structures actually cover the same distance per hypothetical refreshing as does the one bit photon, such distance is merely confined to a localized region ie angular motion rather than extended through space thus accomplishing the accuracies of the linear distance variance discussed above.

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